Pope Francis issued a radical statement that effectively banned Catholics from attending the traditional Latin mass, a move many saw as a direct attack on conservatives within the church.
As MSN reports:
Pope Francis on Friday directly reversed a signature liturgical decision of Pope Benedict XVI, moving to strongly limit use of the old Latin Mass and spurring anger from church traditionalists.
The pope, whose tenure has been characterized by deep church divisions and conservative opposition, said in a letter that his new ruling was a step “in defense of the unity of the Body of Christ.” He suggested that those who favored the old Latin Mass had been exploiting the rite as a way to “reinforce the divergences, and encourage disagreements that injure the Church.”
Francis’s move will not change church services for the majority of the world’s 1.3 billion Catholics, who are largely familiar with the modern Mass — shaped amid church reforms of the 1960s — that is recited in the local language, not Latin.
But many traditionalists remain champions of the old Latin Mass, a liturgy that dates back more than a millennium and has become a central point in church divisions in the wake of the Second Vatican Council, which ended in 1965.
The Latin mass was drawing young people into the church and making them excited about their faith. It's a good thing Francis is shutting that nonsense down. We don't want young, energetic people. Average age of any parish should be 75, at the youngest. Thank you Pope Francis!
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) July 16, 2021
The discovery of the Traditional Latin Mass, which had only recently been reauthorized by Pope Benedict, was among the key factors in my reversion from atheism to the Faith, as it was for countless young Catholics. A devastating decision: https://t.co/ioPnaO7lgY
— Michael Knowles (@michaeljknowles) July 16, 2021
Francis has long been an enemy of conservatives and has in the past criticized border controls and praised socialism.
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
So if he’s so against borders, let’s send all of the world’s refugees to Vatican City and HE can look after the masses (pun intended)! What an arrogant thing for him to say and do! Doesn’t seem very pope-like.
I agree, open his gates. Wide open
He has a huge wall 😂
I agree he isn’t a good Pope….what a shame….
NO pope is good.
Pope John Paul II brought so much humility and love to Catholics and the world that he will be remembered forever.
And Pope John Paul II celebrated the Novus Ordo and he did not encourage reinstating the TLM. Hmmm?
You have a Huge Case of the HUA’s
Remember when this pope demonized “unfettered capitalism”? (Even though capitalism is heavily regulated; there is no country that practices “unfettered capitalism.”)
Capitalism has lifted far more people out of poverty than the church has. His capitalism-bashing proves that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the poor. If he did, he would direct the church to work hand-in-hand with capitalists to deliver a knockout punch to poverty.
Instead, he alienates capitalists, causing them to be less charitable than they otherwise would be.
He isn’t the Pope. It’s clear that Benedict was forced out against his will. Do you see the people this fake Pope hangs out with. All immoral people who favor abortion and every other sin. Gates, Fouci, Jeffrey Sacks, George Soros, the list goes on. Yet Fr Altman and all the priests who are traditionalist’s get booted out of the positions and can no longer say Mass. You see these Priests were getting people invigorated and were spreading Jesus’s Gospel not NWO bullshit.
I geel the pope has a.snake tongue speaks out of both sides of his mouth God ha e mercy on him do you agree
Makes you wonder! What the hell is going on? We need more religious like fr. Altman! And if you get spec permission why couldn’t it be in a parish church? False prophet???
Gerard, you have it right! This communist is not the true Pope! The hierarchy of our church has been rotting away for decades, and is infested with the so-called Vatican Mafia. They’re the ones that “elected” this false prophet! The entire world (including the U.S.) is going through a massive purge at this point in history, and when it’s done, there will be massive amounts of evil spirits that go to “meet their Maker”. I think Bergoglio will be one of them! Hell is going to become much more populated in the next few years.
I think we should leave it up to God to judge anyone – including Pope Francis. I guess that you would have to include Pope John Paul II in the group you believe are in hell ( even though he is a Saint ) since our Church has been rotting away for decades. He lived in those decades. As does Pope Benedict XVI.
We Catholic believe the Pope is selective by the Cardinals in Rome. That is when we see white smoke after secret voting. It is tuff to walk the walk if you cannot talk the talk.
He isn’t really the pope , the pope is to follow the scriptures and act as Jesus ‘s emissary he is not doing that he’s leaning toward abortion, which is murder I don’t know how he can look at himself in the mirror, next he’ll probably let joe Biden take the communion which goes against Christ’s doctrine also accept homos into the church when scripture says if a man sleeps with another man he should be killed , they have to repent and it goes on & on he blesses what our lord condemns he is a false prophet which we were educated about in our Bible , don’t be fooled , JESUS is on the throne
Pope Francis is leaning towards abortion? I don’t think so!!
This site is getting stranger and stranger.
As I recall, the Pope is elected. No Pope applies for the job. He has to walk the walk because he is chosen. He is also a human being just like you and me. Every Pope has had a confessor.
What about the role of the Holy Spirit in the Catholic Church? Have you forgotten about the Holy Spirit?
Supposedly, years ago a doctrine of popish infallibility in spiritual decisions was put in place. At the time, I said to myself, “How silly, you can’t legislate infallibility!” I think that church fathers believe that Catholics are still uneducated serfs in the middle ages, who will believe anything they say. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely. An institution like the powerful, wealthy Church of Rome started early, back in the 3rd or 4th century AD, when Pope Gregory the someteenth and Emperor Constantine made an agreement to make Christianity the Church of Rome, only with some reservation as to what was taught and practiced. After that time there have been some very holy popes and some very secular ones who’ve used their position to gain more wealth and power along with corruption. Back in the dark ages they began telling priests that they could no longer marry and have families. The papacy’s excuse was that priests should dedicate their lives to God and their parishioners. I believe that the real reason to do away with priest families was because they wanted to keep more money in the Vatican bank and it cost to support their spouses and children. In life, with so much graft, lying and corruption surrounding us, I believe we must forget what they say and instead look at what the do an at the results of their action or inactions. We must counter evil in all its forms with strong will and goodness with God’s help.
I just feel this Pope Francis is not a true Christian he is surrounded with evil cardinals who are homosexuals a d own mansions they should be condemned and any priest who believes in abortion should be stripped not the good proests like Fr. Altman who teaches God’s truth.
Where did you get this information that the Pope is not opposed to abortion?
Scratching my head.
And you don’t think the Pope is even a Christian? Who comes up with this ridiculous stuff?
I would be careful about what I accuse people of in open comments.
I hope the people circulating this misinformation realize that they are engaging in gossip, possibly slander and definitely aiming to ruin a person’s reputation. I believe that is sinful in the eyes of Our Lord, having been a practicing Catholic long before the Novus Ordo.
Papal infallibility was declared by in the first Vatican Council, in the name of the bishops of the Roman Catholic Church, in the middle of the 19th century; it’s about as official as anything in this world.
But it is severely restricted to situations having to do with doctrines of faith or morals, done “ex cathedra”: the Pope is making a solemn declaration in his official capacity as the guardian of the Catholic Church. What Pope Francis has done about the Latin Mass is a mere motu proprio. That means that it was done on his own initiative, and is merely a legal edict, and done whether the reasons for it were valid or not.
It is generally accepted that there have been only two, and at most three, invocations of papal infallibility since it was announced back in the 19th century: Mary’s immaculate conception, Mary’s assumption body and soul into heaven [like Elijah in the Old Testament] and John Paul II’s announcement that the Catholic Church has not been divinely authorized to make women priests. [There has been some disagreement about that third example.]
Are you unaware of the major split that separated the Eastern Church from the Western Church in 1054?
Each Rite excommunicated the other.
You might want to read up on this disastrous split and find out the reasons it occurred.
The Pope is so far left why can’t we or the cardinals vote him out. Dear Lord he needs prayers still has the pachamama statues i the vatican and that horrific nativity put out on christmas. God help him please
This Pontiff himself has done more to sow divisions within the Church than any type of Mass.
Next thing you know he’ll be saying it;s perfectly OK to let Bidumbass take Communion.
I think they already did that.
Scripture says no! If he goes against that he’s saying he knows better than Jesus, don’t stand near him (lol) but he is screwed
There is no one more GODLY than this POPE who follows the Lord’s teachings. Of course, those that attack are not Catholics.
Sorry, but he allowed Pachamama in the Vatican, named corrupt people to cardinal’s positions, and creates ambiguities in Catholic teachings that have been crystal-clear for centuries. We had very bad popes before- like the Borgias, so a pope can certainly be a bad one.
No, Francis is an anti-Church fraud; we have had only two legitimate Popes since the death of Pius XII, in 1958; the two were St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI. Thankfully John Paul was allowed to serve till the end of his life and he did great things for our Church; Benedict was “forced” to retire early. Do the research, starting with the “first” successor to Pius XII, discover why the successor immediately resigned (by force) and was replaced with our first socialist fraud. It is a lengthy search, but everyone should do it. You will quickly realize the Vatican was invaded by communism in the early 1950’s; that alone made me have doubts about the “cause” of Pius XII’s passing! Sure, I could be way off base, but my gut tells me differently. I will never give up on the Church; it may give up on me, but God never will.
The people who run the Church are only Human and are sinners. Jesus created the Holy Roman Catholic Church and man can never destroy Her. Once people realize that they can see that the Church is alive and well just going through a bad time. The TLM will never die. If it has to be said under ground then so be it. Good Priest’s like Fr Altman will say the TLM without the approval of the Vatican.
There is no one more impious villain than this anti-pope.
Lay of the drugs Tony.
I hope you are being sarcastic. I can’t tell.
he is the devil
Everything that you utter will be remembered on Judgment Day.
Accusing the Pope of being the devil is a pretty serious statement.
He has.
He’s the last pope. Killing the Catholic Church.
Here is a beautiful quote from St. Paul describing Our God:
“ In him we live and move and have our being. “
These were not St. Paul’s own words. Does anyone know where St. Paul found these most beautiful words?
I would be interested to hear if anybody can tell me.
I already know. You would be surprised.
Yah, he’s doing it “in defense of unity.” Unity – the new catchword for “my way or the highway.”
Yes: the main reason Time magazine gave for naming Biden and Harris as Persons of the Year was that they were (allegedly) bringing our country back to unity. What they have done is to bring the Democratic Party (the party of Time) to unity with the radical Left. Senators Manchin and Sinema haven’t done enough to make more than a small dent in that.
Cuba might be his preferred residence versus Rome !
It does seem that some want to live in the past never advancing from the 1900s just keep everything as it was. I would suppose they will be glad to be gone by 2500 when there will be no borders as we know them today, and everyone will be able to live work and paly any place in the World they please, and the laws will be uniform to some degree the World over.
Religion has been the main contributing factor since it was established from advancement of things that make life better for everyone, now that it is dying very fast World wide and the younger generation want no part of the religious propaganda pushed upon persons my age, with not one ounce of fact to back it up in any way, just opinions and you have to believe.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, THAT DOESN;T EVEN MAKE SENSE!!
AND YOU’RE NOW BLOCKED YOU DAMN ATHIEST!! SEE YOU IN HELL!!
I don’t plan on going to hell so I probably won’t see either of you. But I agree Robert doesn’t make sense but anyone who talks of no borders is a moron.
Arizona, take off your rainbow shades!
You got one thing sort of right: I do believe Pope Francis does want to live in the past — the latter part of the 1960’s to be exact, when all kinds of radical changes were made under the alleged “Spirit of Vatican II”. It would be interesting to know how he views the backlash against Pope Paul VI when he reaffirmed the traditional Christian [not just Roman Catholic] prohibition against contraception.
This Pope is the worse thing to happen to the church i know they could have done better then this leftist
No worries!! He’ll delete the NO mass next and replace it with a Satanic one to show his true allegiance.
Pedo! Trafficker! He will be removed soon!
Sad battle but although I’m somewhat of a political conservative I’m not a “conservative Catholic” yet always appreciated the traditions of that church.
I URGE you NOT to believe anything he says! He isBLASPHEMER. NON-CHRISITAN, is A SATANIC PEDOPHILE. The Catholic Church since Vatican 2 became the DESTROYER of our FAITH. Not one word should have been CHANGED DURING THE CONSECRATION because it is forbidden, and INVALIDATES THE SACRAMENT. The words of the Apostles Creed were also changed. Masses should still be in LATIN! The ALTAR should NOT be facing the Congregation. Many other things are involved. The last FIVE popes were not TRUE to our Beliefs. They will suffer the consequences. Many who were declared a SAINT were anything BUT SAINTS. Wait until all is revealed. I assure you that every word I dared to write is the truth, BUT they never wanted to be exposed. They preferred getting wealthy with all the money they received and never thought they would be exposed!
I said from day one that this Man is not Pope material!!
Who picked him?!
OTHER SODOMITES N PEDOPHILES IN THE CURIA AND AMID THE BISHOPS
Who picked him???
They said that Pope Benedict was is poor health in 2013. He is still living and in good health today!
This man is living proof that the pontiff selection process is political and NOT Divinely inspired, as my hapless ancestors discovered in Germany and Scotland some centuries ago. The Roman Catholic Church is most geared to expanding and preserving its material and political POWER over the lives of others, now as it ever was since the days of King Henry VIII and Martin Luther.
Just pulling up his pants, this Pope shows the world that he is an idiot. Catholics need to grow a pair of balls and execute this clown
This pope is a total disgrace. He is the reason I am a rovering Cathaholic ….
Recovering
Cathaholic?!
May I suggest the Lutheran Church? JUST as good as the Catholic Church, just as similar, and we don;t answer to the Pope.
St Frances must be rolling over in his grave.
Same great religion, half the guilt!
Sorry, but the Lutheran church allows for gay relationships, women clergy and abortion. Not a church for true christians
LUTHER WAS A SELF INDULGENT SEXUALLY DRIVEN HERETIC
He certainly knew about sexual perversion and heresy, having been a monk and a priest, before he couldn’t stand any more of such activities. You might want to read a factual biography. If you are opposed to sexual perversion and heresy, you may find that you are Lutheran.
If you are traditional about such things as abortion and euthanasia, and against letting men participate in women’s sports, you’d be better off in the Orthodox Church than in the Lutheran Church, especially ELCA.
The ELCA is NOT Lutheran. They practice everything Luther and Holy Scripture are against. Their sole purpose is to cover up, blacken, and drive people away from the True Lutheran Church which adheres to Biblical principles. They are referred to as LINO (Lutheran In Name Only), avoid them like the evil they are. The Missouri Synod is not perfect, either, you must sift through them also to find the True, Confessional Lutherans – but when you do, you are Home.
This guy is unbelievable and a total socialist,he is not my pope as Biden is not my president.
St Francis must be rolling over in his grave!
Agree 👍🏻, I didn’t agree with the churchs pick from the start! 👎🏻 And just like God sent the lightning ⚡ bolt that destroyed drug pusher, porn stars image, he same wil be happening to this sorry excuse for a pope! 🤬
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What a devil in disguise as a pope this divider is. He is a thru and thru communist plant. Any Catholics listening? Get yourself a new pope from Popes R Us, ASAP !!
The enemies outside the Church / Religion are NOT the ones to Fear : It is the internal powers that will destroy the Faith .>>A great deal like our elected officials from BOTH PARTIES >>
This is one of the many reasons why my family are Lutherans. We don’t have to answer to the Pope.
YOU ANSWER TO A MYRIAD OF SODOMITES TRANSXEXUALS N FAMALE PRIESTESSES
I have never approved of this Pope – unfortunately those who are able to vote we’re hijacked and as with Biden falsely in there roles
He is a hypocrite. No wonder I am no longer a Catholic. I was raised & schooled through a Catholic education. Which I then found hypocritical in its legalistic pursuit. The Bible is very clear and the Catholic faith is oh so wrong and the pope is a good example of the hypocrites of the Catholic faith. No where in the Bible are you required to confess to priests when we now have the ability to go directly to Jesus. Just one of the falsities of the Catholic faith.
THAT HE IS A HYPOCRITE IS NT LOGICALLY A REASON FOR YOU TO ABANDN THE FAITH. YOU ARE WEAK MINDED AND NACISTICIC
Nothing un-Biblical about confession. It is based on Jesus’s words to his apostles when he breathed on them and they received the Holy Spirit: “Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven; whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.” This gift was passed on in an unbroken line by bishops of the Christian church. For instance, the Roman Catholic Church considers the Orthodox sacraments to be valid because these were also handed down by unbroken succession. But that is not true of the Protestant Churches.
This Pope should tear down the walls of Vatican City. We can send every illegal with a one way ticket there. Let him take care of them.
This Pope is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is a disgrace to the Catholic faith and needs to go!
I find the Extraordinary Form of the mass much more reverential. Too many today treat the mass as a ding-a-long concert and fail to recognize the miracle happening there. Pope Francis is the one creating divisions, not traditionalists.
This decision highlights the difference between the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. The Orthodox Church, while honoring the ancient liturgical language, also promotes the translation of the liturgy into a vernacular language, i.e. that which is locally best understood. It has always done so, However, the Orthodox Church to the best of my knowledge has never prohibited its legacy liturgical language, indeed encourages the enculturation of the parish in the ancient language and customs.
I am 86 yrs old,,I have seen Popes come and go,,,this so=called Pope is ruining our Catholic Religion,,,he should be replaced ASAP,,,God help us all
The first thing most people have to realize is that the leadership of the Catholic Church are two different things.
You can be faithful to your religion without obeying The leaders inside of the Vatican. They inside dance to their own agenda.
Just like they did in WWII when they sided with Nazi Germany & Hitler. Many Priests disobeyed the Vatican then also.
The church needs to keep its nose out of American government affairs
In no way was the Vatican allied with Nazi Germany. At worst, the Catholic Church did not do enough to help the Jews avoid extermination. But it did a better job than most Protestant churches.
This dope of a pope is a waste of O2
fatum est bonus
So you got all your money taking away painting art stuff because of child trafficking you SACIFICES them . How many cardinals died through military court calling it covid 19. R you the real pope or doppelganger. What r you telling the priests in USA . WHY R YOU BRING LUCIFIERIAN INT9 THE CHURCH . WHY R BRING EVIL INTO THE CHURCH PSALM 1 YOU NEED TI READ
he is satan. people beware
Let’s see he has already been caught for sex trafficking and money laundering. The last pope that stepped down and was caught for money laundering said it would never happen again. Wrong. The elite don’t send their money to the Caiman islands, they send it to the bank of the Vatican. – and no wonder Catholics are leaving in droves – and for the record I am Catholic.
CURIAL SODOMITE N FNANCIAL CORRUPTION N HERESY
He is not speaking Ex Cathedral (infallibly) so it is not sinful to celebrate or attend the Latin Mass.
This bar bouncer is a disgrace to the Catholic church! the bishops must get rid of him!
The reason he is an enemy to conservatives is because he is a Jesuit priest, Society of Jesus, and the Jesuit order is the religious order who control the Vatican. One might compare a Jesuit priest to Biden, both of them being radical enemies of the Catholic Church!
LIBERATION THEOLOGY IS HERESY WRIT LARGE
There is a huge rift among the Jesuits. There are many staunch upholders of tradition, including the editors of Ignatius Press. However, I fear that they are very much in the minority.
I guess if this pope loves open borders, and hates walls to keep people out, how about taking that wall down around the Vatican, so refuges have a place to come. No,I didn’t think u would want to do that. No wonder Catholics wonder about u, did u say u don’t like conservatives?
Oh, and another thing, I feel this Pope SHOULD resign/retire before he does more damage to the Catholic Church. Please, Dear Jesus, help Pope Francis to make the fortuitous decision to retire from the Papacy, like Pope Benedict did, before he disgraces the Catholic Church anymore than he has!!
This Pope gets advice from some old lady in Argentina.It was reported that he speaks with her once a week( or so they said)
What kind of person would say such ugly things against abby of the people in his faith. Time for them to move on to being a true Christian by accepting Jesus Christ as their Savior and being baptized in the Holy Spirit.
This Pope is totally worthless!
Should anything less be expected from the Biblical False Prophet?
HERETIC AND SUPPRESSOR OF TRADITION AND TRUTH……NOVUS ORDO MARXIST
We no longer have a Pope…!
the pope is a false profet, you can read that in the bible revelation,
CATHOLIC is TREASON
Pope Francis can do more good for the Church by going to Heaven sooner.
Your in the fig tree generation. Matt 24: 32-51—-Gen 3:7—–Jer. 24——2 Thess. 2
A Socialist Pope, how Anti- Christ can you get!
There is a Heretic in the Vatican!
The Mother of Jesus is the Saint of America and she will not let us go under . I feel we should clean up our ACT if we want to survive. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
The Pope once a popular a bouncer in a topless bar lectures me on morality? The same sack of shit that said no borders while not using the church’s wealth to end global Henry by selling off their treasures . Yup, their thus if shit my pope.
🤔 Satan & Anti-Christ ‘sometimes’ have a falling-out, when they’re not too busy molesting altar-boys☠️…❓hehhehheh
this pope workss for the devil he is the last pope we will have before the antichrist this is what jack van impe said several years ago
The traditional Catholic faith is the one true faith of Jesus Christ. Only the Catholic church is the one true church of Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation.
I believe the Pope is Blasphamos in nature, but Catholics in the Roman Catholic Church have no idea what the bible even says. I am an exCatholic so I get it, I am a Non denominational Christian and Jesus saves, not the church, Mary, the pope or saints
Remember when this pope demonized “unfettered capitalism”? (Even though capitalism is heavily regulated; there is no country that practices “unfettered capitalism.”)
Capitalism has lifted far more people out of poverty than the church has. His capitalism-bashing proves that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the poor. If he did, he would direct the church to work hand-in-hand with capitalists to deliver a knockout punch to poverty.
Instead, he alienates capitalists, causing them to be less charitable than they otherwise would be.
Francis is the “False Prophet” that the bible warned us about.
True, Scripture-believing Christians are always welcome in the True Holy Christian Church, known in many places as the True Lutheran Church where the 1500 year old Divine Service is celebrated every Lord’s Day (Sunday) and every feast day. See Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS conservative/traditional – not new and liberal ELCA), where we believe, teach, and confess the True Biblical teaching that we are saved by God’s grace alone, through Spirit-given faith alone, in the Sacrifice of Christ alone, as taught by Holy Scripture alone. See you on Sunday. Have a blessed week.
Rev. Ronald Roland
Do you, like Luther, believe that the Epistle of James is an epistle of straw? He rejected it because it says that faith alone is not enough for salvation: “The devils believe, and they tremble!”
I was raised catholic but have not been catholic for many many years. I have never seen a church whit soi much money ask so much frrim thier followers. I have never seen a church so politically motivated and this supposed pope is a joke and has been for ever. He is just another really stupid idiot that has a platform and wants his 15 mins of fame. He is a waste of breath and any body that follows a religious leader that cna’t wipe his now a…. well you get the idea, needs ro seek help immediately.
The Pope just needs to “let go and let God” do the driving. We’re all infinitely diverse and our needs and wants are even more complicated. God knows what, when, where and how to reach each of us. Let Him do His thing without impeding that process. ” Isaiah 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.”
Remember that he is appointed by church Bishops and not by God. It is all political.
Hooray, Even the POPE does not like CATHOLICS! CATHOLICS are perfect! A thousand years of exactly 100% FAILURE! There is not even one successful CATHOLIC nation on earth! Vote accordingly!
Just from the comments from the people who want the TLM to stay – I can see why Pope Francis wants it removed.
Hatred, nastiness and divisiveness are rearing their ugly heads in these comments.
And from where do these comments come? They are most certainly not inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Look at what you have written and tell me who is behind them. If you cannot see the evil one in your comments, I have nothing further to write.
Think long and hard how the evil one works.
Not one kind comment for Pope Francis, but plenty of gossip and innuendo.
You will be judged by every word you say or write on Judgement Day. Meditate and pray about that.
Thank God that evil Globalist is long gone! Not sure who is posting in his name. A Jesuit Globalist Evil
PART OF THE DEEP WORLD …there was no division until he made it so …The devil divides.