By U.S. Central Command Public Affairs - https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6797508/afghanistan-evacuation, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=109171079

After 20 long-years of blood and sacrifice the war that began after the terrorist attacks of 9/11 on the US homeland has now finally come to official end.

The last American transport planes carrying the final American service members to leave the country have reportedly now offically departed the country on the orders of President Joe Biden.

Leaving the country firmly in the control of the Taliban and its terrorist allies, all while thousands of Americans are still trapped in the country.

 


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David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago

Don’t call it a war, because it wasn’t. WWI and its sequel were Wars. Korea was a bloodbath that ended with a loss by the U.S. (Some called it a draw…) Vietnam was the conflict that finally drove a stake into the heart of American bellicosity, and thirst for conquest. Americans were sick of conflicts, and they made that point clear with violent protests and anti-military behaviors that decimated our troop morale. It is time, NOW, to forge American Sovereignty, and cease sending our troops hither and yon to engage in combat to benefit foreign countries, Globalists and the defense industry. Our taxes pay for these skirmishes, and we realize no benefit to our security and our sovereignty when our soldiers leave our shores. Indeed, we’re being rendered helpless to campaign against a warmongering administration.

Rjp
Rjp
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

This was a war loser

Kimberley
Kimberley
3 months ago
Reply to  Rjp

It was not a war for over 10 years. It became a war when Biden refused to act on the evacuation back in May and decided to leave Americans there until the last minute

Scott
Scott
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

were you there? Did you serve in Afghanistan? People shooting at me and trying to blow me up on a daily basis it felt like war to me? So if you didn’t experience it first hand keep your comments to yourself.

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Scott

Nope, were you?

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Scott

People shoot at each other in the U.S. I’ll try to explain what a WAR is, and not that banana revolution we were embroiled in: First, if the Afghanistan conflict was a war, there wouldn’t be an Afghanistan. Second, Wars are declared by Congress. When you hear that phrase spoken as an official resolution, THEN you have a war. The conflicts America has fought lately are alternately described as “Authorized Use of Military Force”, “Police Actions”, Preemptive Strikes” and “Spreading Democracy and Freedom”. None of these noble titles describe a war, and until our enemies fight back with the weapons and resolve demonstrated by Japan and Germany during WWII (My uncle parachuted onto France during the D Day invasion, another uncle flew aboard PBY-5s in the Pacific) Americans won’t realize how close we came to losing those battles. Wars can be lost. These skirmishes are not characterized with such a possibility.

TomB
TomB
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

Sorry Baker, if you weren’t there, you have no real concept of what does or does not constitute the reality of “war”…”chairborne” doesn’t get it in the face of live battle…

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  TomB

Oh baloney. You’ve been watching too many John Wayne movies. My nephews were in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they said they were more concerned when A-10s were firing their guns, because the bullets would ricochet in all directions. I was in the military during both the Vietnam conflict and the Iran Hostage Crisis. Believe me, we were busy getting warriors out to the battlefields. I personally submitted the flight plan for B-52s from our base on Guam to attack Iran. Hence, I was responsible for processing that mission. These aren’t wars. I would like to see someone like you at the Battle of the Bulge, then hear your assessment of how those combat theaters differed from the Middle East.

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  TomB

Hmm. Maybe Audie Murphy here would like to read a war story that I heard from an F-105 pilot. This story was told at the USAF Test Pilot School by an instructor. (One Flight Test Engineering Instructor there at the time, El Onizuka, was killed when the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded during launch.) He said after a bombing strike in Vietnam, he had extra ammunition that would require parking the aircraft on the Hot Pad. Rather than spend time waiting for the disarming of his Thud, he lined up on a rice paddy–occupied by several people who were working the field–and emptied his excess rounds upon those hapless workers, slaughtering several of them. The pilots listening just laughed, but I was not amused. What do you think of that?

Someone said “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy”. Maybe that person was right.

Patrick Deromedi
Patrick Deromedi
3 months ago
Reply to  Scott

very good answer from Viet Nam vet

Dan
Dan
3 months ago
Reply to  Scott

I’d be careful about the “official” definition for war especially in light of the sacrifices of our soldiers in Afghanistan. This was a poorly run war on terror until Trump stepped in with intent to win and withdraw honorably. What Biden et al did was to surrender so they could run out fast, close to the 9/11 date for political “optics”. He did that with dishonor. Care to think about all the Americans and Afghans (who helped us) now stranded there amidst vengeful cruel savages. Biden, Blinken, and Psaki so glibly portray them there by choice, a bald face lie.

Scott, I thank you for your efforts over there, and your service to this country! Some of us are well aware of who has paid the price for our safety and freedom. THANK YOU!

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Let’s make a quick casualty count from this skirmish. Total U.S. Military and civilian deaths during the Afghan “War”=2500. After 20 years, that tallies up to 125 Americans per year, in a “War Zone”? Let’s further research whether those Americans were killed in accidents, friendly fire, suicide, or simply being shot. I would venture to guess that our actual combat losses would be significantly less when those factors are computed. U.S. casualties totaled 54,000 during WWI, 407,000 during WWII (And that is conservative.) 40,000 U.S soldiers died in Korea, and a whopping 58,000 of our troops died in Vietnam. These conflicts were considerably shorter than our Afghanistan “War”, yet we have the equivalent casualties from biker bar fights on an annual basis during this “War”.

Michael McGregor
Michael McGregor
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

You, Sir; do not know what you are talking about!!! Korea, and Vietnam were both WAR’S!!! Just war’s of a different nature and against Communism… and it was the American public that decided how they would end… thanks to a biased news media!!! The Communists never intended to keep either truce!! Yet the liberals want to blame the Republicans for their failures!! We had to go into Afghanistan, whether you want to believe it or not!! If you refuse to believe it, then you are just as stupid as were the anti-war protester’s of the 1960’s!!! If you think that George Bush was a warmongerer, then truly you don’t know or understand reality!!!

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago

Don’t jump on me. I didn’t coin the term “Conflict” to label those skirmishes you describe. I’m no communist, so you can just pound sand as far as your opprobrium goes.

Dan Tyree
Dan Tyree
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

I will vouch for David

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago

The U.S. Declared War on Korea? We also Declared War on Vietnam? You must make that distinction. Congress declares wars. Remember FDR’s request? What were the words he used to address congress after Pearl Harbor?

Bill
Bill
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

A rose by any other name, a book by any other title… is still what it is. Just accepting labels that people slap on things is foolish.

Louisa Swanson
Louisa Swanson
3 months ago

He’s probably a hippie relic from the 60’s.

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Louisa Swanson

Actually, you’re right, but I did work for the DoD for 25 years: 8 years active duty USAF (3 of those years during the Vietnam Conflict.) and 17 years in flight operations, air traffic control, mobility and program analysis. I even had to cut my hair. That was rough.

Patrick Deromedi
Patrick Deromedi
3 months ago

right you are

Dan Tyree
Dan Tyree
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

No matter what. We lost

Louisa Swanson
Louisa Swanson
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan Tyree

The people who cheated to get Biden in are the losers.

Dan Tyree
Dan Tyree
3 months ago
Reply to  Louisa Swanson

You’re right. But we all have to suffer for it

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan Tyree

Yes, we did.

dave holt
dave holt
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

Total B.S! We were attacked by an enemy who has just won and will attack us again!

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  dave holt

I won’t disagree with that. However, Numb Nuts will figure out a way to monitor all of our Social Media posts, phone calls, emails, Google Searches and driving habits, so he can nip ANY possible terrorist activity in the bud. There’s a very good book we all should read, authored by Dr. Lorraine Day. The Title of this (rather large..) book is: “The Deliberate Destruction of America and the World. Who’s Doing It and Why”. I’ve just read the first chapters, and it’s a page turner!

Elizabethodonnell
Elizabethodonnell
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

Biden is the worse president. This was NOT a WAR, get your facts right.

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago

True, but any U.S. foreign intervention should have some justification before we deploy our troops to engage their forces. Some claim our soldiers in Afghanistan were guarding poppy fields, while others (myself included) surmised that this “War” commenced concomitant with the natural gas pipeline project. In any case, we spent twenty years losing a conflict that even Russia’s drunken brawlers couldn’t win. There’s a reason why that country is nicknamed “The Graveyard of Empires”.

Bill
Bill
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

Not all Americans agree with you that our country has no role in holding back authoritarianism in the world. We remember WWII, and can still envision what it would have been like to lose that war by playing the pacifist game. Do nothing in the face of aggression, and expect the consequences.

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Bill

We almost lost WWII, and that would have been a catastrophe. Our very brave soldiers sacrificed their lives to prevent that catastrophe, and we should be forever grateful to them. We should also insist that our government cease exposing our brave soldiers to more foreign conflicts, particularly when U.S. security is not threatened.

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

America softened up Eastern Europe for Soviet Expansion after WWII. We even gave a mass murderer–Stalin–the weapons he would need to suppress those populations. THEN we supplied them with food and other staples when Germany was divvied up into communist sectors. We allowed communists to encroach upon South Korea along the 38th Parallel. We let communists march into Saigon after Vietnam, and as we’ve witnessed a similar event lately, those South Vietnamese citizens who aided U.S. military operations were left to fend for themselves. Hey, don’t be concerned about ‘authoritarian’ regimes lording over foreign countries, we’ve got one right here in the U.S. to deal with.

Steve Atherton
Steve Atherton
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

Yeah, 911 was a Disney production, not real

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Steve Atherton

I suppose you’ve got that chapter down pat, right? While you smirk in haughty amusement of these posts, you might read a passage contained in the Jewish Authored Doctrine: PNAC (Project for a New American Century) which was written during the 1990s, with the emphasis that Americans would only adopt such a scheme if a Pearl Harbor type event occurred. Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit, we had a Pearl Harbor event occur! Just HOW coincidental is that?!

SUE
SUE
3 months ago

HOPING HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS RESIGNATION

Nine Island Girl
Nine Island Girl
3 months ago
Reply to  SUE

Hahaha, me too

Debbie
Debbie
3 months ago
Reply to  SUE

Me too. The article title was deceiving.

Kimberley
Kimberley
3 months ago
Reply to  SUE

click bait is why they title things this way. Beijing Biden and his puppet masters will never resign

Stephen Weiss
Stephen Weiss
3 months ago

It would probably be very Dumb for President Biden to do a victory lap ending the “20 year War in Afghanistan……there’s no victory here at all..The TALIBAN, ISIS and Al Queda, are all very much alive and well in Afghanistan, and will spread their evil as far and wide as they can..world Domination is their ultimate goal….we’ll be shooting at them for a long time, just from longer range with more expensive ( to the taxpayers ) weapons…….but of course since this is a really bad idea and a bad outcome………it sure adds up why Biden did it?…what hasn’t he messed up?
The border? The economy? ( been to the grocery store lately/). Covid-19…? wasn’t he also going to cure Cancer? ( I seem to recall that too as a campaign promise)gas prices?..anything he touches is MESS. Liked seeing him falling asleep while the Israeli Prime Minister was talking to him….what an embarrassment!

Louisa Swanson
Louisa Swanson
3 months ago
Reply to  Stephen Weiss

President Trump (who still should have been President) had a good thought out plan to get the troops out, slowly, a little at a time, the citizens and refugees would have gone first…AND NO WEAPONS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE LEFT BEHIND!) THIS loser did everything wrong!! EVERYTHING!! He had no plan AT ALL!!!
And we;’re stuck with him for 3 years cause they won;t DARE impeach him!

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Louisa Swanson

The Trump campaign resonated with Americans who saw their jobs being sent overseas, while our borders were dissolving before our eyes. Like Reagan, Trump realized the government was the problem, and he would ‘drain the swamp’ of corrupt, parasitic and compromised (Epstein..) officials in Washington. He won the election, but not the selection…

Dan Tyree
Dan Tyree
3 months ago
Reply to  David Baker

That’s exactly why I believe that he was cheated

David Baker
David Baker
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan Tyree

Americans don’t understand how oppressive regimes form within nations. Every indication of a regime forming in the U.S. has materialized, with the same conditioning (Feminism, Racial Polarization, Voter Fraud, Cultural Decay, Profligate Debt Extensions, Foreign Conquests, etc.) while our media is in alliance with the dictators. If Americans need to learn one thing, it’s that the histories of these regimes are characterized by similar methods to insinuate their oppression.

Nancy Forrest
Nancy Forrest
3 months ago
Reply to  Stephen Weiss

Yes, it is an embarrassment. But President Biden doesn’t seem to grasp the gravity and severity of his error. But Joseph Biden has always had the opposite of the Midas touch; everything Biden touches turns turn to garbage. Afghanistan is just the latest of Biden’s catastrophic decision; he has been on the wrong side of nearly every public policy issue in the past 50 years. Did the leftist Dems and other Biden supporters expect any different by ignoring the past 50 years? His presidency has been a perfect storm of incompetence. #cluelessjoe