Pro-Second Amendment advocates were dealt a major blow on Tuesday after lawmakers in Louisana struck down a bill which would have allowed citizens to have permit-less carry in the state.
As The Reload reports:
Multiple senators who voted to pass a permitless concealed carry bill flipped their votes during a first-of-its-kind veto override session. Republicans Patrick Connick, Louie Bernard, Franklin Foil, and Democrat Gary Smith switched sides on the vote in order to block the override. A fourth Republican who voted for the initial bill, Ronnie Johns, was also absent for the override vote due to surgery.
“At the end of the day, the legislature got it right,” Governor John Bel Edwards (D.) told WAFB after the override session ended on Wednesday.
The failed override means Louisianans will still need to obtain a permit from the state to carry a concealed firearm legally. It also marks the first major defeat for permitless-carry advocates this year. It signals the difficulty those advocates face as they attempt to expand the adoption of permitless carry beyond states where Republicans control all levers of the lawmaking process.
Permitless carry has become the fastest-growing state gun policy since 2010, with 19 states adopting it in that time. In 2021 alone, five states have gone permitless, with Texas being the largest among them. Alabama, Florida, Ohio, Georgia, South Carolina, Nebraska, and Indiana are the only states where Republicans run the legislature and governorship that haven’t yet adopted permitless carry.
Gun-rights groups like the NRA slammed the sudden turnaround as a serious ‘betrayal at the Capitol.’
Do we agree that we should know who people are (i.e. not felons), in order to vote… Well, then why not a gun permit to carry a CONCEALED weapon. Sorry, guys common sense says we don’t want felons to carry concealed guns. Making it ‘easy’ is a dumb idea. Before issuing a concealed carry permit EVERYONE should have basic weapon safety training and understand the legal implications. The NRA crowd is wrong on this one. Too much ideology and not enough common sense. I support concealed carry and think we need federal law to ensure reciprocity in all states… that makes sense. That is where they need to put the lobbying money and effort. Criminal will carry without a permit anyway… failure to have a permit is one more charge to add another 5 years to their sentence.
Hey Rick, I’m sure you mean well but please consider this. The ‘Bad Guys’ are already carrying illegal guns illegally! They are still being released into the public without consequence after being arrested with stolen guns and having committed felonies as often as not. Surely you aren’t suggesting that law-abiding citizens are going to turn to the dark side just because they can legally carry? This is a matter of legal self-defense with a concealed weapon. That’s it, that’s all. Law-abiding citizens are being victimized again.
True THAT!
So true. I see in the news daily that felons are charged with illegal gun possession. And that’s usually after that they committed other crimes. And being truthful, 90% of them are black. Don’t shoot the messager. I’m just sharing what the news reports
Way to put it to Rick in a nice way, (I’m sure you mean well). Liberals just cannot think for themselves, and they do not possess common sense. I do not know why, but they just don’t, which makes them very dangerous to liberty. I swear that a liberal would walk right into the communist prison cell without even being forced. I sure wish we could find a cure for liberalism before this country is completely lost to leftist communism with no freedom at all.
Hey there, common sense tells us that CRIMINALS don’t need ANY permits to carry ANY way they WANT, they’re CRIMINALS for crying out loud, an ARMED society is a POLITE society, PERIOD! How many criminals have been prosecuted for gun crimes? close to ZERO I would bet, strap on!
An armed citizenry is a FREE citizenry. That is why the Framers ensured Americans would have the means to wrest tyrants and miscreant from their government and their neighborhoods.
Read the 2nd Amendment. When you find the clause that says you require a plastic coated permission slip from the government in order to exercise it, you let the rest of us know. And by the way, federal law already forbids firearms possession by felons. In fact, the penalty sections of GCA ’68 already provide for a raft of severe penalties for violations. Even Commiefornia has a statute on the books providing for 25 years for use of a firearm in commission of a crime.
Common sense tells me those felons should be locked up, and if they DO carry firearms, then obviously your point is moot. Read about Australians being disarmed, and how those people live in fear of armed criminals invading their homes and killing their neighbors. Indeed, their Venezuelan counterparts will add their angst to the argument that people need to protect themselves. Americans are granted the Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms. You do not have authority to inhibit the American people from exercising that right.
No Americans are not granted the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms in the Constitution. We have that right simply because we exist. The Second Amendment of the Constitution tells the government to keep its hands off that right. Unfortunately we have let the government both state and fed trample on our right time after time.
If you wish to split hairs, that Right can be taken from felons after their convictions. They still ‘exist’, but they’re not allowed to have firearms.
Unless they have gone before a judge after their sentence is complete (including any probation and paying fines) and had their right permanently removed because of the nature of their crime those rights should be automatically restored upon the end of their sentence.
I was a criminal, so I should be ‘sympathetic’ toward such people. I’m not, because those people do not recognize a Free State. They believe their victims must accede to their ‘authority’ because they threaten their lives, property, relatives and friends. As far as I’m concerned, once that attitude is expressed–and emphasized by displays of weapons or use of violence–those people should be hanged. Of course, they’ve got lawyers with beaks like toucans who can mitigate their crimes, and project excuses for their behavior, but that industry is just as culpable for their profiting from such activities.
Read the Constitution…. Especially the second amendment. Then come back and change your dogma ridden CATHOLIC imbued ‘mind’.
So you admit that criminals will carry anyway. So they don’t care about permit or not. I do agree that people need training but that they should get on thier own. The traing you get in a permit class is go but you need to continue to practice and learn much more.
Now wecome to people that may need to care now and waiting for a permit takes time and there have been a number of people that have ided because they had to wait for a permit.
Let get back to your criminlas carrying. They are not allowed to carry even in a state that doesn’t require a law abiding citizen to carry so of they get caught with a gun then they shpould be put in mjail immediately, breaking the term oa thier release, and then have a court hearing and added time for the gun possession. See how that should work.
Now in todays world these idiot judges, well actually the judges know just what it is they are doing because they are paid off and criminally liable, but they let known criminals/terrorist go. So will they care if a felon has a gun or not? I think not.. so maybe you should change your thinking on this issue. Oh BTW I have my BS and MS in Criminal Justice and finished my school/classes for my PhD in Applied stats and research. I have a ton of work experience including teaching the airport security after 9/11
When are people going to understand that criminals (felons) don’t care about the law? All you are doing is forcing the good guy to leave his gun behind which gives the felon the advantage and in this case now every felon knows the law abiding citizen is helpless when confronted with a gun unless they have gone through the ridiculous dance with the government to
Prove they can carry a gun.
KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES AND AWAY FROM OUR CLEARLY STATED rights granted under the constitution!
No doubt the turncoats are on the FBI payroll.
I agree with that so whats the law with someone that has a weapon in their possession, how can he carry the weapon from point A to point B
Well, you voters in Louisiana remember this when you go tho the polls next year.
Is it not amazing that the lawmakers, chiefly Democrat, are hell-bent on going after innocent citizens who would defend themselves with weapons? They seem unconcerned that criminals will have unlimited access to guns under the table or behind the barn. Why not go after the criminals? Because law-abiding gun owners are a much easier target AND once their weapons are gone, they can offer no resistance to the programmed triumph of Democrat totalitarianism.
Demo and CATHOLIC are the same.
Communist ,
Pointing at the powers that be ,to afraid to come out and play,have to hide behind the scenes with acts of fear aggression.
Install fear to, control! Set examples of fear and control.
In ten dancy to use what ever means deemed necessary for population control.
If they cannot control the populus,then they must get it to turn on each other through other possibilities..
Turn situations around and against its it’s people.
What was once just,and likely normal,Now turn things upside down,what was as the people no it to be right,now reverse,what was right wrong.I have spoken.
Criminals don’t pay attention to any laws. Look at DC. They have a criminal representing the USA and he make up laws and why should we follow his laws? Give me one good reason. We already have laws and his are frivolous and full of control for true law abiding citizens and we can’t let that happen. We have protect ourselves from the criminals running this country. Texas will be a no permit carry in September and I plan in carrying.
I guess there has been a lot of failures since Kennedy was voted president. Communists were always the worlds obvious haters of Catholics
In West Virginia we have freedom for concealed carry with no state regulations. (permits) Are some x-felons carrying handguns? Maybe, but with an armed citizenry they – like everybody else – will be forced to obey the laws of the state. Shoplifting is still a crime in West Virginia and people still go to jail for taking what does not belong to them.
If you have a voters registration then you can have a Gun.
Rick’s point is a common mistake made by Democrats. Felons, and people who commit crimes may be the one’s that are targeted by the laws restricting Constitutional Carry, but then, they don’t obey laws.
Only the law obeying will be lacking the means to protect themselves in confrontations with the lawless.
I agree that to own a weapon, you must undergo training, and that that training should be a condition to continuing to own legal weapons. But training should be free and provided by the state for legal gun owners.
You people in Louisiana—— This governor does not trust you as much as the Founding Fathers did. No matter what his party, VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE.
The La legislature wanted to keep the permit less ability for their felons
Just more demo(n)rats & RINOs “swamp” politics…these ppl will throw their mothers under the bus for profit❗️
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