A proposed rule change by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) could put millions of gun owners at risk of violating the law.
The Washington Free Beacon reports:
The ATF published a notice Thursday that could require millions of AR-15 pistols and similar firearms—which are designed with braces that strap on to a shooter’s forearm—to be either registered, turned in, destroyed, or dismantled. But the standards laid out for determining the devices’ legality, such as caliber or weight, provide no objective measures, and the agency said it may also use undisclosed factors to judge the legality of the devices.
The agency conceded in the notice that some pistol braces are legal and should not be subject to the registration or destruction requirement. It said, however, that it could not provide a blanket determination for which pistols, or braces with which they’re often equipped, are legal and said it would have to examine each gun “on a case-by-case basis.” That means owners of the vast majority of the estimated three to four million AR-15 pistols and similar firearms may have to register with the ATF.
The rule change won’t be officially published until later today. A draft is available here.
Gun rights groups and their allies are already raising fierce opposition.
Second Amendment advocates were up in arms over the proposed rule, saying the uncertain legal status could destroy several businesses that make pistol braces and harm the gun industry. Erich Pratt, senior vice president of Gun Owners of America (GOA), said the subjective nature of the guidance shows that the “ATF has gone off into the deep end.”
“GOA will rally the grassroots to fight these regulations, and if they eventually go into effect, we will commence immediate legal action to protect gun owners,” Pratt said in a statement.
Read the constitution it very plainly says it can not be changed in any way by any means
Nuff’said.
Good luck with that approach. The law also states…
1- Rioting, looting are illegal
2- Entering the country illegally is, well, illegal.
3- Voting more than once is illegal
4- Submitting fraudulent votes are illegal.
5- Legal error rate for voting systems is much less than 1%
6- Destroying evidence (as Hillary and scores of others have done) is illegal.
How much has the law matter in any of these and myriads of other situations where unaccountable persons and agencies are involved?
They are no going to give a sh*t , they’ll do it like the bump stocks
ATF must be a bunch of liberals!!!
ATF Gun Gtabbers, should be transferred to Chicago, Baltimore, NYC etc!
china, russia, NO RETURN ALLOWED!
They want totalitarianism, let them live under it!
ATF are the true “Gestapo” of the criminal leftists like Biden and Harris. Violators of the Constitution, their every action is decidely illegal and unconstitutional. TANSTAAFL
What is a ‘AR15 PISTOL?
10″ barrel I believe
a made up to be scary label.
An AR-15 pistol is an AR-15 that has a barrel shorter than 16 inches, does not have a stock, and is shorter than 26 inches overall. The lack of a stock defines the AR pistol as a pistol.
It’s just a smaller more compact version. Great for old ladies like me that have a hard time with the long guns
Another Fed agency that needs to be burned to the ground.
Decades ago, it was stated that with the number of local, state and federal laws on the books, there isn’t a single person in the U.S. who has not broken at least one law that could land them in court or jail. Today, there are even more rules, regulations, and mandates than laws and many, if not more of the non-laws are unconstitutional.
Thomas Jefferson said: “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.” If that is true of unjust laws, it is also true, if not more so of unconstitutional rules, etc.
When is the last time you’ve heard of politicians advocating repealing laws? Those in office are always speaking about the need for more, new laws and freedom takes a hit every time.
Twenty years ago there were more than 22,000 gun laws on the “books” self-conflicting to the point that they literally cannot be followed.
t’s called EX POST FACTO and SPECIFICALLY DENIED by the Constitution!
Also, “rules’ ARE NOT LEGISLATED LAW!
The commies in the ATF smell blood. They know that when Beijing Biden and the Succubus get in power, all federal goon squads will be allowed to run wild.
The ATF is just getting an early start on the Communist plan.
This “regulation” is, in fact, an ex post facto law and its enforcement may not be legal, especially since the same agency had previously deemed the now-banned items legal. It needs to be challenged in vourt asap.
IT Is REGULATION, AND AS SUCH PROBABLY INVALID TO CHANGE EXISTING LEGISLATION and existing constitutional rules
If the Crime Boss Joe Biden is falsely appointed as President and is in the Oval Office, you will see our Constitution eradicated, changed and or modernized . Those words came straight from Obozo’ mouth . We may NOT recognize or ever see the Constitution again as they try and get rid of it. The rules would not apply “ with “ infringe upon “! We need arrests and Martial Law to happen and drowned the Deep State !
I’ll take criminal over victim and citizen over subject.
will not comply!
I remember reading something about the ATF rule about ‘Definition of a Firearm’ , where it reads something about that the trigger assembly (The Lower) and the Bullet chamber(The Upper) are one piece in the definition— Now as we all know the AR-15s are two piece — ALSO all they consider to be a ‘FIREARM’ is the lower- if it was bought over the counter AND has a Serial Number. Everything else , (the Trigger assembly, the recoil tube, spring , the buttstock , the WHOLE upper receiver ARE JUST PARTS- NOT INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION of Firearm– SOOOO if you have to take it down to them — REMOVE everything and take down an EMPTY lower they can destroy it and you can come home , buy a few 80% lowers and rebuild it with a drill press and X/Y vise– No serial #
ATF seems to not be able to retrieve illegally owned guns. As a taxpayer citizen who legally owns and exercise my “God given right” to own a gun. Why am I being persecuted? I am sure this is not the reason we have ATF to harass law abiding citizens must be a derelict of duty type of person. I have rights, ATF has never owned my gun they may NOT have it.
To all love the comments minus the dumb ones my name is Ron its we the people we need to start to take action or its gonna get worse the way i see it they the government take care of yours i will take care of mine if they come to my house an disturb my family they wont see their family again im so sick of these dumbass Democrats liberals we all need to stop talking an take action
Notice the extension of my middle finger….
ATF has been a rogue, out of control agency from day one. But it is also symptomatic of other government agencies with the same mind set and a lazy Congress that refuses to do it’s job by abdicating these kinds of decisions to unelected, unaccounted for bureaucrats.
STOP THE GRAB!
Another attack on a cleaver ATF anti gun group. These new rules should on the face of them be turned down by the basic tenet of the 2nd amendment infringement clause. With Biden in the White House and that Harlet Harris possibly going to take over his position as President this is just the beginning I fear.
Rise up.
Gun up.
Do not comply. The first one of us who comply will open the flood gate. The fourth amendment protects you against unlawful search and seizure. Get a lawyer lined up, when they come to your door, ONLY say, “Lawyer”. Nothing else.
Not if the join forces and I think that may just happen.